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Hi guys,

i'm after a tuning box for my 207 1.6HDi 110 FAP. i know this get's asked loads but there really isn't that many 1.6 110's around (i think ).

not looking for mega gains as i dont want the clutch to go prematureley 140hp max, not sure on torque gains.. 220ft-lb?

i've read on hear about digital boxes and analouge boxes but which are the best ones to go for?

i found a speedhawk box and quite like the looks of it as it's adjustable and it has a on off remote. that's about £300 and eccosse also do one for £255+ VAT which will give about 25hp extra.

i think £300 is my max budget as moohlah is tight at the mo lol.

all help appreciated

Twed

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i would just recommend getting it mapped, the going rate over here is about £225 for a remap. they are a much better job than a tuning box, and you can ask for the level of tune which you require.
in my opinion tuning boxes are crude, basically fooling your ecu, plus some people have had problems with tuning boxes
hope this helps

yeh, i'd much rather have it remapped(who's that with by the way?) but i dont want to void it's warranty as i dont know if there are any issues with boosting the power, i.e. clutch slip (like the DW10 lump in the 206) or extra wear on other parts, etc.....

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there are...

pretty much all you said + increased wear on the turbo and reduced oil life. 12.000 miles interval is too long as it is, best bring it bak to 6000 miles after remapping...

most of those issues don't need to be any if you get a good remap though, but a tuning box isn't a patch on a good remap.... not even on a mediocre remap...

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cubic inches, there's no substitute...

If you're thinking about spending ~£300 you should just get it mapped how you want. You'll be a much happier bunny.

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The synergy1 from tuningdiesels or roveron is a good digital unit and not expensive,Ron is also fairly local to you[other end of the A69 and up a bit] so you can go and see whats what before you part with your hard earned.The boxes are usually well less than £200 but are very well made,no scotch locks or cables to cut so easy to swap on and off for servicing and warranty work.

i got a drake box of ebay 100 quid and very impressed with it and would recommend.

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I'm not sure what your basing your recommendation on,as according to your other post you've only had the Drake box for 2 days,you seem to have a turbo on it's last legs and you haven't tried your £100 variable resistor at higher levels yet.
Was the Drake bought new or used,it does seem cheap for new which suggests that its nothing special.
I recommend the Synergy1 having used one for 2 years and 30K miles

these boxes seem pretty cool and are adjustable too. done a quick search on the forum and there are no bad words for them.

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well why do u need to have a tuning box for 2 years to tell the difference? Yes i have had it 2 days and with out even turning it up theirs a noticeable difference. sorry for the recommendation!

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well why do u need to have a tuning box for 2 years to tell the difference? Yes i have had it 2 days and with out even turning it up theirs a noticeable difference. sorry for the re

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If the tuning box that you are recommending destroys your engine tomorrow after you only had it 2 days then it's not much of a recommendation is it.The synergy1 that I use gave very noticable improvement straight away and I can say that the van still drives spot on after 2 years use with no fuel or oil consumption issues,electronic glitches or other faults often found with cheap tuning boxes.
If your motor is still going strong in 20 or 30k and 12 months or so then your recommendation is probably fully valid.

If the tuning box that you are recommending destroys your engine tomorrow after you only had it 2 days then it's not much of a recommendation is it.The synergy1 that I use gave very noticable improvement straight away and I can say that the van still drives spot on after 2 years use with no fuel or oil consumption issues,electronic glitches or other faults often found with cheap tuning boxes.
If your motor is still going strong in 20 or 30k and 12 months or so then your recommendation is probably fully valid.[/quote]
Well yes you are right there i cant argue with that but even if the engine are whatever blows up next week doesn't meen its the tuning box does it?

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The difference between the cheap tuning boxes and the higher quality ones are durability, quality of tuning and versatility. Cheap ones will be generally manufactured to a poorer standard and are prone to more failures.

They are also usually analogue (variable resistor style) or very basic digital tuning which does not allow very specific tuning parameters. This can make it a bit pot luck as to how well it tunes the car.

The last point refers to how easy they are to transfer from one car to the other should you at some point change your car. For those cheaper boxes that are running the pot luck line, you can run your luck again to see if you get good results in the new car. Others may involve sending the box back to the supplier (in Italy in the case of the Drake box) to get it re-programmed. The more expensive, higher quality ones like the Speedhawk box will allow you to re-tune your tuning box yourself, without the need to return the box back to us. It is supplied with a USB cable and you just download the new tuning file for your car directly on it. Simples

If you want a high quality tune, durable and versatile tuning box then you will need to be looking at the top players really.

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are your tuning boxes digital dude? can they be adjusted in certain rev ranges? like: high gain in low revs - med gain in high revs or high gain in both etc etc...

cheers..

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Yes they can, our tuning boxes give us the ability to adjust the tuning applied at different loads of the engine meaning we can achieve very accurate tuning and if any issues do arrise (if a vehicle is feeling particularly fussy!) then we can tweak the tuning file to compensate accordingly. This flexibility allows us to cover a very wide range of vehicles where others cause problems.

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